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Post by Andrew.C on Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:41 am

A topic on the radio the other day was about whether or not English should be a compulsory subject in high schools. Any opinions?

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Re: Truth is beauty, beauty truth, sir!

Post by Marc on Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:44 am

It should be in English-speaking countries, yes. COME ON!

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Post by Andrew.C on Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:59 am

I said I respected the "it depends" response, but I certainly don't respect the "Come on!" response, also known as the Lleyton response...Zing!

Yes I compared you to Leyton

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Re: Truth is beauty, beauty truth, sir!

Post by Marc on Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:00 pm

What are a Leyton?

I was doing Gob from Arrested Development.

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Post by Andrew.C on Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:03 pm

I don't know who that is, and yeah I spelt Lleyton wrong one of the times (I'm not sure which; two "l's" what the hell??).

But you still have to explain why it should be compulsory in English-speaking countries.

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Re: Truth is beauty, beauty truth, sir!

Post by Marc on Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:50 pm

I still don't know what a Lleyton OR a Leyton is.

Teaching people to properly comprehend and use the language of their country should be compulsory.

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Post by Andrew.C on Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:55 pm

A Lleyton is a Lleyton Hewitt, as in the one that goes "Come on!".

What do you mean when you say "properly comprehend and use" a language? And why do you think the English course does this?

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Post by Glenjamin on Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:03 pm

i think the current syllabus (did i spell that right) doesn't do what Marc believes it does. It's supposed purpose is to teach an appreciation of english language literature, and to get kids using their own creativity. the same subject could be just called literature, and yes it should be compulsory- for the simple fact that it gives students a chance to both use (and expand) their creative brain bits, and because it assists in building a students ability to explore/critique/understand the various literary works that their society both uses now (the simpsons were used in the HSC in recent years) and those of the past (Shakespeare, etc)

Not so much a rant as what i hope is the beginning of another lively discussion.

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Post by Marc on Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:22 pm

Enjoy your new rank.

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Post by Andrew.C on Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:22 pm

I, too, hope it turns into a nice discussion.

I agree with your description of what English is supposed to do, and I agree that it is valuable, but when it comes to being compulsory I'm less sure. Surely mathematics, or science, or history, are all very valuable, but none of them are compulsory. The most pertinent example is Maths, since, as you know, it was compulsory but now isn't.

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Re: Truth is beauty, beauty truth, sir!

Post by Marc on Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:24 pm

That doesn't mean English shouldn't be. It means Maths should be.

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Post by Andrew.C on Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:27 pm

Yeah good point. Though I do see the side of the argument that allows kids to select the subject that they think will help them best - wait, kids don't know shit.

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Re: Truth is beauty, beauty truth, sir!

Post by Marc on Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:31 pm

And neither do we. That's what makes it so juicy.

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Post by Andrew.C on Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:36 pm

Yeah... I guess. Doesn't address the question though.

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Re: Truth is beauty, beauty truth, sir!

Post by Marc on Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:37 pm

What question?

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