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Post by Andrew.C on Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:32 pm

Just if you haven’t heard, here’s some latest news on those new British bus ads, those “atheist” ads.

This is the shortest article I could find on it, for those with ADD like attention spans.
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/01/06/atheist-bus-ads-roll.html

The main reason I bring this up is because of our discussion before about the secular nature of Australia.

Article wrote:Amazingly, the campaign has now gone international. Spain's Union of Atheists and Freethinkers are launching buses across Barcelona today with a translation of our slogan, Italy's Union of Atheist, Agnostics and Rationalists are also planning to roll out atheist buses, while the American Humanist Association have been inspired to launch a campaign, and buses carrying their slogan "Why believe in a God? Just be good for goodness' sake" have now been running for over a month in Washington DC. Sadly, not every country has been so open to the idea: the Atheist Foundation of Australia tried to place the slogan "Atheism – celebrate reason" on buses, but were rejected by Australia's biggest outdoor advertising company.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/06/religion-atheism

Secular indeed. Though, as Marc has pointed out, it was probably more just a censorship issue. Still...

Here’s another slightly longer article, if you were interested.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/world/europe/07london.html?_r=3&ref=world

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Re: Bus campaign.

Post by Nick on Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:18 pm

Some how, some way. This is Glen's fault.

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Post by Andrew.C on Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:09 pm

Wow. Just Wow. To be honest, I did not expect such a thing, not because it’s totally unimaginable, but just because... wow.

Article wrote:The latest to hit the streets with pro-God buses are The Christian Party, the Trinitarian Bible Society and the Russian Orthodox Church. The Christian Party is paying for buses to carry the slogan: 'There definitely is a God. So join the Christian Party and enjoy your life.' The Trinitarian Bible Society has chosen a line from Psalm 53: 'The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.'

http://timescolumns.typepad.com/gledhill/2009/02/antiatheist-bus-campaign-launched-in-london.html

Hanne Stinson, the British Humanist Association's Chief Executive has made the following statement, after several requests for a response:

Stinson wrote:We entirely support free expression and freedom of belief, and so fully support the right of these Christian groups to place their ads on buses. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Of course, there are differences between the Atheist Bus ads and the new Christian ones and I want to take this opportunity to reflect them.

Our ads were a response to ads run by jesussaid.org whose website promised an eternity of hellfire for non-Christians. Our response message, suggested by comedy writer Ariane Sherine was intended to be reassuring, telling people not to worry and enjoy life, as there was probably no god and so no cause to fear an eternity of hellfire.

Our ads were funded entirely by thousands of individual donors who gave small amounts in an outpouring of popular support for the positive message. The ads now launched in response to our response are funded by organisations or wealthy individuals.

Our ads were positive and peaceful. They didn’t say, for example, that religious people were ‘fools’, unlike one of the response ads being run, which says that "The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God."

Our ads were undogmatic and funny, with the addition of the ‘probably’ in line with the continuing openness of humanists to new evidence and in an echo of previous funny ads, like the Carlsberg ad which stated that it was ‘probably the best lager in the world’. The new ads are dogmatic and declaratory, leaving no room for reason and debate.

Of course, these groups are free to express themselves as they choose. Our ads encouraged people to think for themselves and I am convinced that they will continue to do so.


I would have thought that some Consumer Board would have stepped in, because surely that's just blatant false advertising...

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Re: Bus campaign.

Post by Nick on Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:06 pm

Yes, I am going to change my beliefs on what I see on the side of a bus...

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Post by Andrew.C on Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:11 pm

Yeah yeah, good point. That seems to be a lot of the responses I've seen from people, about both campaigns.

It does go to show how much clout the Christian groups have over there, or, how much clout money has...

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Post by Nick on Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:54 am

Stop saying clout.

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Post by Andrew.C on Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:34 am

Yeah, I did think twice in one sentence sounded weird, but once I started I couldn't stop clout.

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Re: Bus campaign.

Post by Tom on Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:48 am

lets face it, who can!

CLOUT!

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Re: Bus campaign.

Post by Groove Champion on Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:09 pm

You guys have lost all clout by saying clout.
Well, at least most of your clout by saying clout.
Yes, I aware of the irony of saying clout in order to point out your lack of clout so don't bother pointing that out.
Clout!
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Post by Andrew.C on Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:46 pm

I wish I never said clout...

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Re: Bus campaign.

Post by A-Kex on Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:34 pm



CLOUT CLOUT FIVE!

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Re: Bus campaign.

Post by Andrew.C on Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:42 pm

*sigh*

Why do I even try to have serious conversations with you guys...?

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Post by Nick on Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:55 pm

CLOUT BUS ADD CAMPAIGN!!!


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Post by Andrew.C on Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:49 pm

Nick wrote:CLOUT BUS ADD CAMPAIGN!!!


What is that? Some kind of equation?

Clout Bus + Campaign = ... world domination?


Yeah, sorry, Nick, I had to make to fun. I have little else in my life to bring me joy.

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Post by Glenjamin on Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:21 am

Just to get back to the point... apparently in the UK (where the original campaign started) the Atheist campaign has generated more walk-ins to churches than any other Christian run advertising. I say bring it over here, let's see what happens!

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