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I caught a bit of this doco last night that was talking about how some people from the island of Lesbos were going to court for the right to take back the term 'Lesbian' from the lesbians. I can see their point. It would be weird if calling yourself ‘Australian’ had the common ambiguity of also meaning homosexual.
Should there be any effort to call lesbians (homosexuals) something else? There are many perfectly good substitutes.
Should there be any effort to call lesbians (homosexuals) something else? There are many perfectly good substitutes.
Andrew.C- Larry David In Training
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Maybe they should change the name of the island instead or call themselves Lesbosnians.
Whats the offical language in Lesbos? Is it english? I figured that lesbian was an english word and that other languages had their own word for it.
Whats the offical language in Lesbos? Is it english? I figured that lesbian was an english word and that other languages had their own word for it.
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Yeah, good points. I think the official language of the island is Greek. And I think "Lesbian" is strictly an English adjective, but an adjective that originally meant "of Lesbos".
According to that Etymology site: Lesbian. 1591, from Latin 'lesbius', from Greek 'lesbios' meaning "of Lesbos."
So, I think, because the English word was derived directly from the Greek it's very similar.
According to that Etymology site: Lesbian. 1591, from Latin 'lesbius', from Greek 'lesbios' meaning "of Lesbos."
So, I think, because the English word was derived directly from the Greek it's very similar.
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I didn't think my first point was good. Funny, maybe. Good, no.
Since they are bitching about what is an English word and they are Greek speaking place thingie then I think we should form a coalition of English speaking countries and destroy them. They have no right telling us what words to use. This means war.
Since they are bitching about what is an English word and they are Greek speaking place thingie then I think we should form a coalition of English speaking countries and destroy them. They have no right telling us what words to use. This means war.
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Not the Greek isle!
Glenjamin- He's A Regular Charlie Church
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Yep,they just made the list. The list of 'things not permitted in Trevtopia'.
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You false advertising son of a...
MRac MC- Taft! You Old Dog.
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Who's a what now?
Glenjamin- He's A Regular Charlie Church
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I think he's upset because there wasn't pages of oily lesbian porn. I figure that's the reason Tom has finally left.
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very clever Andy. I think you conned a few people with that topic heading... i was just wondering how it was appropriate for the gentleman's club, and now i understand.
well even if they win the rights in court, to take back the name. the courts decision would not affect the whole world. besides people are stubborn and would continue using the word!
well even if they win the rights in court, to take back the name. the courts decision would not affect the whole world. besides people are stubborn and would continue using the word!
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They sure would, Skyman. Good point. You should read up on the new cult—I mean, ‘organisation’ that Trev’s starting up. You’ll love it.
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I'm back baby
Yeah the term lesbian came from that island for exactly the reason you think. Most of the greek city states considered it more than ok for male lovers to boink. They considered it a more pure love than that between a woman and a man because for the most part you weren't actually attracted to the young man, you did it because you liked the conversation etc etc... I.e. bs.
But on lesbos the same was true of women. Where as in most other greek states women were considered second class citizens and in some, like athens, where barely alowed out of the house (much like in radical islam) on lesbos they romped on with their fellow female companions! Hurrah!
Lets all have a large huzzah for the island of Lesbos!
So in short i don't see why they are trying to take back their name when its historical antecedant actually stood for original freedom for female sexual expression. Just say 'i'm from Lesbos' rather than 'i'm a lesbian'.
Yeah the term lesbian came from that island for exactly the reason you think. Most of the greek city states considered it more than ok for male lovers to boink. They considered it a more pure love than that between a woman and a man because for the most part you weren't actually attracted to the young man, you did it because you liked the conversation etc etc... I.e. bs.
But on lesbos the same was true of women. Where as in most other greek states women were considered second class citizens and in some, like athens, where barely alowed out of the house (much like in radical islam) on lesbos they romped on with their fellow female companions! Hurrah!
Lets all have a large huzzah for the island of Lesbos!
So in short i don't see why they are trying to take back their name when its historical antecedant actually stood for original freedom for female sexual expression. Just say 'i'm from Lesbos' rather than 'i'm a lesbian'.
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Why must you tie everything back to Islam Tom? I rather think you have a man crush on Mohammad... Amirite?
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When did i bring it back to islam? I made an ambivilous reference to it in order to greater illustrate my point by drawing attention to a similarity in custom. No judgements nor opinions were offered (in that sentance)
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There was a tone to your... erm, Arial size 10 print!
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Don't get me wrong, i don't like islam. And i am happy to say so in the safe environ of this forum. But the thought doesn't fill my mind so that all i have is that dislike. I also don't like clowns...
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i just found it odd that you brought it up while speaking about the greek isle of Lesbos, a place that is distinctly greek orthodox, but what i'm really saying is...
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Yes except that, in the context i wasn't talking about religion at all....... so you comment was relevant...... how....
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My comment was relevant... as an educated observation of you post...
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touche on the you... touche
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Don't touch my stuff! Wait, this isn't the YMCA...
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Hahahaha that reminds me of when Bobo and i were trampsing round in Bath. We got off the train at like 11 in the morning (drunk) and headed out to get accommodation. The only place that we saw at first was the YMCA but we didn't want to stay there because we had these images in our heads that on the hour every hour, even at night, big burly men in one piece leotards would bust into the room and dance/hump around the room while a megaphone busted out 'YMCA you gotta stay in the..".
Perhaps you had to be there...
Perhaps you had to be there...
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All things considered, I'm rather glad I didn't.
Also, that little debate you guys just had was interesting. Mind-numbingly interesting...
Also, that little debate you guys just had was interesting. Mind-numbingly interesting...
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And groin grabingly good?
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he never said that
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