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So, how many people still visit the forum?

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Post by Tom Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:55 am

OMG i had a massive amount of text that didn't get in because Skyman posted at the same time!! NOOOOOO
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Post by Andrew.C Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:02 am

let me just say

LMAO.
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Post by Tom Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:34 am

ok.. here goes.

It's my lunch break, i have a glass of water and my rush mix tape and, as always, no date.

Bring it on.

Three questions and my answers:

Why do CEO’s etc. and sports stars earn so much money?
Do they deserve this money respectively?
Opinion: who is more deserving?
Opinion: is it right?

Hokay. CEO’s etc. have the capacity to earn squillions of dollars. The reason for this is fourfold. They have generally worked in the industry for most of their adult lives and so have much experience to offer their respective companies. They are, for the most part, highly skilled at delegation and at management as well as having the capacity to deal with high levels of stress and (most of the time) long hours. Of course you could argue that they could easily apply all these things to a job without earning over 300k a year, and you would be right. The only problem with that is that the stress levels, due to both consumer pressure and internal expectations is very high so in order to make people want the job in the first place you have to offer them something in return. The other reason, and this is the fourth fold, is that in human terms we measure our success, generally (I am going to say ‘generally’ a lot in this post as I realise that there are a lot of people out there who don’t act this way. However ‘a lot’ doesn’t mean ‘the majority’) by our relative power and wealth compared to other people. They, in turn, do the same. As power and wealth traditionally go hand in hand to endow someone with power you must usually endow them with wealth as well. The CEO of a company must appear to be powerful, they must then be renumerated with salary packages that reflect this power. This is not only for their benefit but also for the benefit of the company. A CEO who drives a Hyundai and lives in a flat in Waitara is no where near as intimidating as a CEO that drives a Mercedes and lives in a house at Potts Point.
Sports players have the capacity to earn squillions of dollars. The reason for this is not quite as convoluted as the CEO’s (which is entirely open to debate btw), but equally valid. What a sports player brings to the table is roughly the same as a CEO – demonstrable skill of a high order, experience (when considering that they have devoted much of their lives to a single sport, even if that is from a very young age), capability of handling stress. Those that get paid the most are generally the best in each of these categories. The reason they earn so much money, however, is more because people pay to see games and people pay for merchandise. Managers realised early on (thanks to player strikes) that people are paying to see the players, not the game. Think of the Louvre. Certainly there are a lot of people who pay to get in because of all the art in there, to while away the hours staring at paints from everywhere. However, how many do you think only go into the Louvre to see the Mona Lisa. They go to see the best, the one they’ve heard about. If you have the best players people will want to see them. People like to see things (be it art or sport or the blurred middle ground between) done at their best! So they pay. Managers will always market their players, they always have, even in the days that you are talking about where the players were forced to have second jobs to support themselves. The revolution came when the players realised that the managers and owners actually did very little where as the people doing the work, them, were not the ones earning the dough. So they began to ask for more money to reflect their skill and their drawing power, and they got it.
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Post by Tom Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:35 am

that was answer one.... the rest to follow
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Post by Andrew.C Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:23 am

I eagerly await your next installments.
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Post by Groove Champion Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:08 am

Paragraphs next time.
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Post by Andrew.C Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:17 am

And would it kill you to use some justified alignment, sheesh, show some self respect.
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Post by Glenjamin Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:31 am

as someone only entering this discussion now- Yeah, tom, Justify!
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Post by Tom Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:08 am

i wrote it in word then pasted it in. I am not going to have what happened last time happen again!
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Post by Andrew.C Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:15 am

Yeah, baby, that's the ticket.
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Post by Groove Champion Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:40 am

Couldn't you just type in normally then highlight it, right click and select 'copy'? Then if it doesn't work you just paste it and try again.
Word.
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Post by Andrew.C Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:34 am

True. But beware! I once was typing a message, and whilst typing that message I wanted to check a reference (because I like to maintain certain quality standards) and I pressed ctrl + t to bring up a new tab... and firefox crashed! Message gone! I think it had something to do with dang Vista. Anyways, Word is the ultimate in preventative care.
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Post by Skyman Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:26 pm

This has happened to us all in one way or another...

I feel your pain Tom!

As i was the cause, i would just like to say...

SUCK IT!!!
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Post by Glenjamin Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:39 pm

The Skyman strikes!
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Post by Tom Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:13 am

Skyman wrote:

SUCK IT!!!

NOOOO my soul!
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Post by Glenjamin Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:11 am

An artist's representation
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Post by Tom Thu Nov 27, 2008 3:02 am

OMG that's exactly what it felt like!
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Post by Glenjamin Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:34 am

With your eye's whiting over and your teeth elongating into points...? Guys i think Tom's a Vampyre!

and as this photo shows, he's almost invisible to cameras...

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Post by Andrew.C Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:37 am

Why do you have your own personal picture of Tom and his Brother? That is... a little gay.
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Post by Glenjamin Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:56 am

try google images!
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Post by Andrew.C Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:09 am

And look for 'Tom and his Brother'? Okay, you're the boss.


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Post by Glenjamin Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:29 am

Creepy...

Actually i typed in Thomas Angove and that was on the 1st page


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Post by MRac MC Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:02 pm

Don't yell shut up at the editing box. He are your friend.
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Post by Glenjamin Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:31 am

but i dun wan esplain.
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Post by Andrew.C Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:21 am

Glenjamin wrote:Actually i typed in Thomas Angove and that was on the 1st page
Wow, yeah, it worked. That scares me a little. Facebook, I do not approve! Luckily "Andrew Carter" is such a ridiculously common name that's there's little chance of me making the cut.
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